The 338 Win. Published Oct 28, 2019 8:30 PM EDT, Anyone who says the .30-06 is not effective on brown bears or grizzlies either has never used one or is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship. An Alaskan Bear Guide. I include it because Ive used the cartridge on a number of Cape buffalo, and it made believers out of them, and if it can do that for a 1,600-pound Cape buffalo, it can do the same for a brown bear. Ive killed a couple of bears with the .375 H&H and Id certainly put it at the top of my list, though for reasons as much sentimental as practical. Recoil has a direct effect on most shooter's accuracy--the more recoil, as a general rule, the less accurate the shooter. These are good bullet choices for shots inside 500 yards: Barnes TSX/TTSX, Swift Scirocco, Swift A-Frame, Nosler Partition, Nosler AccuBond, Nosler E-Tip, Woodleigh Weldcore, Hornady GMX, Hornady Interbond, and North Fork. A well-fed grizzly boar will scale around 600 pounds, with the really. of energy at the muzzle. It took one shot from a .340 Weatherby and that was that. Ruger chambers the .454 Casull in both the Super Redhawk with a 4-inch barrel and the Alaskan in a 3-inch variant, both of which are compact and easy to draw when things get up close and personal. cases, top with 180- to 300-grain bullets, and you have yourself an impressively versatile, flat-shooting, hard-hitting workhorse of a big game cartridge that races neck-and-neck with the 300 magnums or hits blow for blow with some of the big bores. Snow is Shooting Editor of Outdoor Life, where he oversees the publications firearms and shooting coverage. Value. Sbt Sierra Game King 20-pack. Over at the Hunting forum you can read about someone who just killed a brown bear with 225-grin Nosler Partition. Mag and enjoys a cult-like following. Mag.! So why choose a 338 Win. shooting different bullets (MPBR calculated using high B.C. The .340 is Roy Weatherbys answer to the .338 Win. overflow: hidden; It comes close to .338 RUM performance but fits into standard (.30-06) length rifle actions. The 8-pound hypothetical rifle above might be a tad light for the 338, although I hunted with one (Ruger Hawkeye) in about this weight class and didnt find it objectionable. Just dont expect those slugs to hold up if they hit a bull elks shoulder at fifty yards. The AccuBond is a good all-around hunting bullet with high ballistic coefficients (BC) and terminal performance similar to the time-tested Nosler Partition. The .338 in (8.6 mm) is the caliber at which medium-bore cartridges are considered to begin. Buffalo Bore produces several loads for the .50 Alaskan, including a 450-grain bullet that delivers a whopping 4,400 ft.-lbs. With a Cerakote finish on all the metal parts and a Leupold VX-5HD scope in Talley detachable rings, this rifle gives me all sorts of options. Therefore, a cartridge with less recoil than another, but with similar terminal performance, is better for the simple fact a missed shot, no matter how powerful, is useless. That one should be churning out 3,887 f-p of energy at the muzzle. padding: 10px 5px; Grizzlies are widely distributed, and have the decency to live in mostly open country, including mountains. border-style: solid; One bullet/load the right 250-grain from a 338 Winchester Magnum strikes a fine balance between trajectory, punch, and penetration. For pure hunting, I still think Id go with the 300 Win. word-break: normal; Combine this pressure with the 70- to 76-grains of powder generally stuffed into 338 Win. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. Weatherby has developed several rounds by necking down their awe-inspiring .378; the .300-378 and .338-378. Calculations were corrected to standard temperature (59F/15C) and pressure (29.92 inHg/1013 mbar) at sea level. bullets for sheep, caribou, etc. Weatherby, for a change, followed Winchesters lead. Like all of Winchesters belted magnums, the 458 was short enough to fit and function in the standard, 30-06-length Model 70 action and magazine, so all they had to do was neck it down and give it a 25-degree shoulder to create a magnum 338 reminiscent of Elmer Keiths 334 OKH of the 1940s. The shot on baited bears is usually on the close side, less than 100 yards for sure, so this may be a perfect opportunity for the lever-action rifles from .30-30 Winchester, to .35 Remington to .45-70 Government. The 338 Winchester Magnum's overall length is 3.340", same as the 30-06, 270 Win, etc., so its cases hold about 12 percent less powder than the Weatherby's. That amounts to about 50 to 100 fps less muzzle velocity with a 250-grain bullet. Youre going to need something with more horsepower. may be the better option then the 300 Win. At that distance, a shooter has roughly four seconds to make a charge-stopping shot, which requires a steady hand under intense pressure. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. Disclaimer: the information above is purely for illustrative purposes and should not be taken as permission to use a particular caliber, a statement of the legality or safety of using certain calibers, or legal advice in any way. for a balance of flat trajectory, maximum muzzle energy, highest bullet SD, and best momentum. The .338-378 has devoted fans in the long-range hunting sub-culture, but only exceeded the .340 Weatherbys muzzle velocity by 119 fps; a small reward for the huge recoil it produces. color: #ffffff; in 1962. Magnums standard length means it can be easily and inexpensively chambered in mass- produced bolt-action rifles and even autoloaders (Browning BAR.) Straight down. This phenonemon is known as drag or air resistance. If that bothers elk, moose, bears or eland, they sure haven't told anyone. Mag, the softest here, slaps the shooter as hard as a .375 H&H Magnum, while the .338-378 and .338 Lapua are close to .416 Rigby territory. .tg .tg-hwi9 { For brown bears, a premium softpoint is the sound choice; I like the Nosler Partition, Swift A-Frame, Barnes TSX, Woodleigh Weldcore, Hornady DGX Bonded and Federal Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. All the cartridges tested were limited by the minimum expansion velocity recommended for the standard Nosler AccuBond. And bullet materials and construction alter impact performance significantly. Federal loads its 06 ammo with 200-grain Trophy Bonded bullets, which is what you want if you dont handload. maximum average breech pressure is 64,000 psi. has 780 ft.-lbs. Fuzzy, if your comfortable with your set-up, run with it. font-size: 18px; So, which one comes out on top in a head-to-head matchup? padding: 10px 5px; Keep your reloads where you can get at them. Mag., came out in 1956, made from a shortened, necked-up 375 H&H case. Heres a look at the eight best charge-stopping bear cartridges ever made. .375 H&H Magnum (L), .338 Winchester Magnum (R). However, as with all hunting, the best rifle is the rifle you shoot confidently. Stainless and laminated, its obviously aimed at Alaskan guides and fishermen needing a reasonably handy yet hard hitting protection tool. Question: Do you think a Remington 700 is expensive? The Winchester engineers had shortened the .375 H&H case to 2.500", and necked it either up or down to hold .458", .338" and .264" diameter bullets, releasing the trio of new magnums in 1958. 7. The Black Magic Magnum is a 602-grain slug that carries 3,000 ft.-lbs. KISS. 5. of energy, while the 10mm has about 728 ft.-lbs., both with a 180-grain Buffalo Bore bullet. One of the more powerful handguns available today, the .454 is capable of pushing a 300-grain Buffalo Bore bullet at 1650 fps with 1,813 ft.-lbs. Mag. Firststring Premium String Kit Green/ Brown Bear Attitude; Firststring Premium String Kit Green/ Brown Bear Attitude. This can be of considerable importance. The big difference was Elmers 334 fired .333 bullets atop a full-length 375 H&H case, just like the 340 Weatherby Magnum that finally came out in 1962. Recoil calculations were based on a nine-pound rifle weight. Handloading recipes vary significantly depending on the primer, brass, and barrels used. Again, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether .338 Winchester Magnum is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest grizzly or brown bear - and to this question, the response again is yes, the .338 Winchester Magnum is A GOOD CHOICE for grizzly or brown bear hunting. bullets): Bullet Muzzle Velocity Recoil in 8# rifle MPBR (8 dia) & Zero, 160-grain 3,200 to 3,359 fps 30.5 f-p @ 15.7 fps 351 yards, Zero 300, 180-grain 3,100 to 3,280 fps 37.3 f-p @ 17.3 fps 348 yards, Zero 297, 200-grain 3,000 to 3,059 fps 37.0 f-p @ 17.3 fps 335 yards, Zero 285, 225-grain 2,800 to 2,944 fps 43.9 f-p @ 18.9 fps 330 yards, Zero 275, 250-grain 2,700 to 2,780 fps 43.9 f-p @ 18.9 fps 316 yards, Zero 267, 265-grain 2,745 fps 48.2 f-p @ 19.7 fps 316 yards, Zero 268, 300-grain 2,400 fps 44.8 f-p @ 19.0 fps 279 yards, Zero 236. Assumption. 338 Winchester Magnum Ammo for sale online or in-store at Sportsman's Warehouse. And if anyone knows what kind of firepower is necessary to kill a brown bear, its Luke. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. text-align: left; Question: Why would Recoil even be considered in a .338 caliber? Original price: $79.99. Let's look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. MPBR for a 10 inch kill box illustrates the concept. The heaviest bullet available would give each cartridge its best chance since such bullets offer the highest BC's and SD's and would thus make the comparison as fair as possible. Semi-automatic and striker-fired, the P320-XTEN is extremely accurate, easy to shoot even with powerful 10mm loads and holds 15-plus-one rounds. Based on ballistic charts, I don't see a great increase in energy with the 250 grain bullet and its trajectory is not as flat as the 225 grain bullet. 78.79 $. While a well-placed shot from a 10mm can no doubt do the trick, the .357 Mag. If, however, true long-range hunting is anticipated, they will all benefit from the specialized long-range bullets now on the market which expand well below 1800 fps. Trajectory in this test is defined as Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR): the distance over which a bullet rises three inches above sight line and then drops three inches below to hit within a six-inch kill box. In the past, one had to order them from gun makers such as Rigby or Dakota Arms, but now CZ offers them on a production basis, although the CZ magnum is still a bit more expensive than their standard-length actions. AccuBond (.575 BC/.313 SD) at 2850 fps. is what usually comes to mind. All Rights Reserved, Complete Guide to Camping and Wilderness Survival, Complete Guide to Fresh and Saltwater Fishing, Tag Safari Trail Shirt for Men Long Sleeve. I am currently getting ready for a 2007 spring brown bear hunt in the bristol bay area of alaska. Foundry Outdoors is your trusted home for buying archery, camping, fishing, hunting, shooting sports, and outdoor gear online. To no ones surprise this impala ram traveled after the shot. vertical-align: top Answer: As the article said, I chose the heaviest Nosler AccuBond bullet available in factory ammunition. | In terms of firearm selection, Nelson said its really about delivering a few well-placed shots on target in a short timeframe. To put the numbers above in perspective: the 300 Winchester Magnum pushing a 210-grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range (B.C. font-weight: bold; This centerfire rifle cartridge has been able to balance necessary stopping power with moderate recoil that can be managed by the average hunter. http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php?t=5799, Revision - Airworthiness Directive (AD) Affecting Continental Engines Popular among Alaskan guides and hunters, the .375 is capable of launching a 270-grain bullet at 4,300 ft.-lbs. and 2700 fps, thus delivering massive energy on target. From what Ive seen, there are more Alaska bear guides carrying .375s than anything else. or any of the newer or more exotic mags out there in .30 caliber. Whether you can actually safely reach that MV is the question. Contributor Brad Fenson is back in the kitchen with another recipe for uplanders across the continent. Get that. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. The .300 Win Mag has a slightly greater overall length (3.34" vs 3.29"), but both cartridges are used in standard (instead of magnum) length action rifles. I hope that later he can post the story of the hunt. The .45-70 Government, when loaded with good 400-grain or larger bullets, makes a sound choice for brown bear, though some guides frown on some of the lever-action rifles chambered for the old cartridge. border-color: #656565; .tg .tg-sklq { I don't think I have ever seen a .338 without a muzzle brake. Alaska guides love the 338 Winchester Magnum with heavy bullets for bear protection as well as bear hunting. The 338 will sure as hell get the job done for anyone who can shoot at all. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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The .357 is also available in smaller-framed revolvers that fit smaller hands, making it ideal for women and less experienced shooters. Read on for his take on this Thai-inspired fusion dish. As to the muzzle break comment, I have yet to see a rifle around here with a muzzle break. Its also capable of sending a massive projectile, like Buffalo Bores 430-grain hard-cast bullet, at roughly 2000 fps and 3,600 ft.-lbs. Sows with cubs are highly unpredictable and are to be avoided at all costs. 8. That way youre instantly bear ready. Not at all. The 180-grain 300 Win. } Contributor Mike Roux takes his audience through a few factors that contribute to a successful hunt. Mag. 300 gr. My personal choice? Thats 1,000 psi LESS than those two smaller cartridges. Snow. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. The .338 caliber magnums provide all the power most hunters could ever wantor need, but bullet selection is vital to realize their full potential. Any of them will do fine. David E. Petzal Youll be shooting it at extremely close range. and large game (1500 ft-lbs), and the minimum velocity most hunting bullets require for reliable expansion (1800 fps). During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. They offer not just raw violence (at both ends of the barrel) but also flatter trajectories than the big bores and consummate accuracy. You could carry it all day. 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