By When applying as a party, one applicant will apply first and, upon completing the process, will receive a party application number. These hunts are truly a life changing event for most young hunters. by hunterman67 Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:18 pm, Post Thats why the New Mexicans shoot dinks or have a hangover on the 2nd day of the hunt and get scunkedLOLBOB! Ultimately, however, habitat is the key to mule deer populations. The Northern and high elevation portions of the unit are made up primarily of Ponderosa Pine dominated forests, below the Mogollon Rim and parts of the Sierra Ancha Mountains. west of sunflower mesa to the az line is good. We highly recommend that you do not include fourth and fifth choices unless you are willing to accept any leftover license. December: Tags will likely take at least 13 BPs to draw for Residents, in 2021 no Non-Residents applied with enough points to be in the max pool. Lots of private or public land? Vacation Rental Cabin located in Ruidoso, New Mexico 88345 on ByOwner.com. When hunting elk in unit 23 there are a few things to keep in mind. All the laws are not in the proclamation but if you follow it you should be good for the most part. Human-Wildlife Interactions, 6, 245260. 5. Yes there are deer and Lions and bears and plenty of hunters. Bender, L.C. Though this bull will not make the record book, the official score sheet will be kept on file by the Boone and Crockett Club. same hunt in 23 and 24- same time ????????? I'm planning on scouting quite a bit next weekend. Hows it going Im from Morenci ,AZ. Only iron sights are allowed on muzzleloader rifle when used during muzzleloader hunts; New early archery mule deer hunt in Unit 27 (Sept. 1 to 24, 2023); New late archery mule deer hunt in Units 7 and 9 (Jan. 1 to 15, 2024); New archery Coues deer hunt in Unit 27 (Sept. 1 to 24, 2023); New rifle Coues deer hunt in Unit 26 (Dec. 2 to 10, 2023) Up to 10% of the permits for each hunt are allocated to applicants through the draw who have a signed agreement with a guide/outfitter. Donald Wenner with New Mexicos #6 black bear, taken in Catron County in 2005. The draw is completely random. Just wondering about some information on unit 24 mule deer. We hunted unit 23 the last two years and have taken some nice muley bucks. Mule Deer Areas: Mule deer numbers in Unit 23 are stable. Any information would help. Basics of trophy management [Guide L-111]. But have seen a few decent ones. When new impoundments are built, several smaller holes are more desirable than one large one. I've hunted that unit 3 times. Wife drew a nov 18, Burro Mt rifle mule deer last year She ended up taking a realy nice buck. I already did all my Google map searching and took on trip to learn the lay of the land, do little scouting and put up some cameras. The track is from 2 3/4 to 3 1/4 inches long, and the walking stride is 22 to 24 inches long. They normally spend summer and winter in the same general area. Work put in a last minute request that I ended up having to fill, so I got stuck working this weekend. Real close to Tucson but closer to the new mexico border. Well looks like me and the wife both drew a New mexico 23, 24 Mule deer tag. Like other ruminants, the mule deer has a four-chambered stomach. First, applicants should apply for a hunt for their first, second and third choice on their application. Given the moisture and improving range conditions in 2023, it would be a phenomenal year to have an antelope permit in New Mexico. In the past, hunters have found success hunting near watering holes during the first and last light of the day. New Mexicos antler growth in most areas of the state is directly tied to the quality of the feed derived from winter, spring and early summer moisture. by thedesertbuck Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:40 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, Copyright 2000 - 2019, MuleyMadness.com 51.7 miles in anyone have any helpful info? Media | November: Mule Deer tags for unit 23 took from 4-10 Bonus Points to secure in most cases. 2023 Western Hunting Application Deadlines, New feature released on Insider Hunt Planner, Point Tracker: Your first step in researching hunts, How to import waypoints from other sources to GOHUNT Maps, Dialing in your fitness now to be ready for fall, Research your way to big bucks with a tool you're probably not using, The ABCs of finding a legit hunting partner. There are three pools of permits: the resident pool, the nonresident pool and the guided pool. Shepperd, D. Binkley, D.L. However, that isn't to say there is not potential for something larger to be taken. Interactions between predators and mule deer are complex and highly variable across distance and time; the key to understanding predation is differentiating between the act of predation and the effect of predation. The resident deer populations of these areas are not high, but in a year when snow and cold temperatures occur, it can improve the migration from Colorado to these areas in New Mexico and the hunting can be really good. The timeframe between December and late March is critical for good prong length and height in general. Seasonally, mule deer diets are >60% browse in spring, >50% browse in summer and autumn, and >80% browse in winter (Heffelfinger, 2006). New Mexico is an excellent trophy state for antelope, but getting a license can be hard for DIY draw hunters. Both residents and nonresidents can apply with a guide and be considered to draw from the guide pool of permits. After this, she may have multiple fawns if she is in good condition. by trojan Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:19 pm, Post New Mexico's Coues deer numbers are stable, and for hunters looking to add one to their trophy room, there are good public-land opportunities in the Burro Mountains of units 23 and 27. The deer are pocketed and not wide spread and not high population numbers due to the desert climate. Trophy Mule Deer In New Mexico's Top Units - Worldwide Trophy Adventures Take or attempt to take game species by the aid of baiting or scenting. The later months from April to July are more critical for mass and some length below the prong. The fibrous material on which a deer has been feeding is often observable in the scat. The funny thing is they drove right past about 10 deer without even seeing them. New Mexico is still a dry state and is still experiencing abnormal to moderate drought conditions in large portions of the state. The Arizona Deer Draw Deadline is the second Tuesday in June annually. New Mexico made some changes to their antelope draw a few years ago and most applicants are aware of the changes at this point; however, it's worth noting those once again. NEW Mike Gallo 2013 The Boone and Crockett Club officially certified the world record pronghorn, which came from central New Mexico. (Photograph courtesy of the Boone and Crockett Club), New Mexicos #2 typical mule deer, taken by Joseph A. Garcia in Rio Arriba County, 1965. That was his job for the week. New Mexico Mule Deer - Unit 23 - Draw Odds, Tag Information and More New Mexico Mule Deer - Unit 23 Click for Terrain Detail GIS Data: Unit Size and Land Ownership* * Approximate square miles '20 HUNTS IN THIS UNIT New tag allocation rounding rules will be in effect for 2020 ( More details ). The size of the mule deer population in New Mexico is unknown, and densities of mule deer can vary greatly among areas and over time. The breeding season or rut for mule deer in New Mexico begins in late November (northern areas of the state) and lasts until mid-January (southern areas). If you enter the draw with a guide/outfitter and draw a permit, you are required to hunt in the field with that guide for a minimum of two days. During breeding periods, mature bucks cover a large area in search of receptive females (does). If all goes according to plan I am going to draw a deer tag for unit 23. Well, I got to go out and scout a bit last week. The cost for the quality, high demand and quality/high demand hunts is higher than it is for the standard license. The later season dates should offer a better rut rifle hunt. Hunting New Mexico has never been better! It'll be my first time going after coues and also my first time hunting with a bow. Areas around Mule Creek look promising, but haven't been afforded the opportunity to get out and scout much. Big Game and Beautiful Women..ALL SPORTS except soccer. by thedesertbuck Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:09 pm, Post Old Mexico Mule Deer Hunt Dates November 14th, 2023 to February 15th, 2024 Hunt Prices 11: $12,000 50% up front to book your hunt and the other 50% 30 days before arrival. To aid in your research and planning efforts, we created a brand new tool for Insiders calledHunt Planner. Plus hunting for wild turkeys, small game, upland birds, and waterfowl makes New Mexico a standout state. how are you and your wife going to both hunt in the two units ? GMU 23. You can't really call it beer since most cans say "Budweiser". The southern and lower elevation areas provide mule deer hunting along the A-Cross road (Forest Road 60) and the Cherry Creek road (Forest Road 203). Results will be available online on or shortly before April 26, 2023. There is little actual fighting between bucks because dominance hierarchy has usually been established before peak rutting periods occur. Hike and get away from them and You mite find a good Buck. Our years of experience and generations of knowledge hunting the unit make it and experience that is always interesting and exciting. Mule deer are extremely varied in their habitats. Did you draw inside the burros or outside? Sign up for a new account in our community. Bartos, D.L. Go through the photos, reviews and book now! (Photograph courtesy of the Boone and Crockett Club). Muzzleloader and rifle hunts usually take place in late October through the middle of November. The best hunts for trophy caliber mule deer bucks have been the late season hunts in the northwestern corner of the state. Because of population declines, harvests of mule deer have also declined; deer harvests (mostly mule deer), estimated to be as high as 55,000 in 1960, declined to <10,000 in 2013. . Re: New Mexico Unit 21 Mule Deer. Feed is always important to horn/antler growth and antelope are selective feeders. 180 6/8: ), Mule deer conservation: Issues and management challenges (pp. The lower elevations of unit 23 consist of flat desert-like grassland with some brush and trees. In fact, there may be a slight disadvantage. Currently, New Mexico offers unlimited antelope private land permits. This unit does have some hunting pressure on the public grounds, but those who are able and willing to put in the work have found success here in past years. ready to see some new country though and ready for some adventure!! No Draw or Application New Mexico Public Land Mule Deer Hunts In all areas, a wide variety of other forbs are important depending upon what exactly is available. I am not familiar with the area around Alma and have only hunted late season so not really sure what deer patterns are in the early season. You must log in or register to reply here. We have our rifle hunts in Northern New Mexico bordering Colorado on the North part of the unit, and the Jicarilla Apache Indian Reservation on the Souh East part of the unit. my buddy and I had this same hunt back in sept of this year for Bow. Consider these factors as you look at the individual units. Anyone with some experience in the area that could give some insight as to if this is Coues country rather than Mule deer? Leftover tags will go on sale at June 24 at 10 a.m. MDT. There are three main highways in unit 23. We love guiding mule deer hunts in the famed Strip and Kaibab region (units 13A, 13B, 12AE, 12AW, 12B, 12BW) and have over three decades experience hunting this very special place. With no Bonus Points the draw odds were roughly 8.5%. 2006. Highway 90 runs throughout the middle part of the unit. After the horn is shed, new growth begins with the prong and goes upward. Bender. Be aware that in 2023, muzzleloader hunters cannot use magnified scopes. Young. We always hunted between Glenwood and Alma, all the way to the state line. These changes have decreased the amount of mule deer habitat in New Mexico and throughout the West. If you aren't caught up in competition of "score" then this hunt lacks nothing when it comes to overall experience. . That was the most action I saw the entire hunt. Logan, UT: Jack H. Berryman Institute. Trophy potential on average is fairly moderate. When they eat, the food is swallowed with a minimum amount of chewing. We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as of May 5th, 2020, Hello from "The Land that shall not be named". The dropping of antlers occurs when the length of daylight decreases, triggering glandular reactions that control the production of testosterone, insulin-like growth factor-1, and other hormones. No permanent bond is formed between bucks and does. Once you have an agreement with a guide, you will apply in the draw with their guide number. (Print friendly PDF). Hunt may be upgraded to 1 on 1 guide service for an additional charge. 2007. In late August or September, the velvet dries up and is rubbed off on small trees and shrubs as the antlers harden or mineralize. (Photograph courtesy of B. Neal Ainsworth, Jr.), New Mexico record typical elk, picked up in Catron County in 1997. An applicant cannot edit an application once submitted. For one, good antler growth requires moisture and quality feed, especially in New Mexico and 2023 is shaping up to be a much better year. Lloyd W. Powell Jr. 1974. In J.C. de Vos, Jr., M.R. For example, if an application with two people is drawn and there is only one license remaining, then that application will be rejected or if a nonresident and a resident apply together and there are not enough nonresident licenses, neither the resident or nonresident will be given a license. Richie, May 11, 2016 in Mule Deer Hunting, Thought I'd see if anyone drew the same tag. planning Antler size and number of points depend mostly on the deer's age, physical condition, and their genetic background (Bender, 2011). Also if anybody has any pointers for elk in that unit I sure will listen. Mule deer have extremely large ears, hence the name. The terrain looks good for Coues there but haven't put boots on the ground there yet to verify. Silver City, NM Late archery: 20% Muzzleloader: 35% Rifle: 64%, Archery: 50% Muzzleloader: 50% Rifle: 83%, Archery: 8% Late archery: 39% Muzzleloader: 12% Rifle: 33% Rifle: 52% Rifle: 55%, Archery: 17% Late archery: new Muzzleloader: 22% Rifle: 32%. College Station: Texas A&M University Press. Common foods in northern New Mexico include aspen, chokecherry, oaks, bearberry, bitterbrush, mountain mahogany, and most other shrubs in the rose family (Rosaceae). Glad none of them decided to take on the car. 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